Old Man Marty, Late to the Party

[Marty]

Why hello, Final 3! First off, I'd like to let it be known that despite what you might read post-game, or what may be said after this, that I've got nothing against any of you.

With that being said, I want to say that I've heard a lot of things from the other Jurors and from your answers to them, so I don't necessarily have anything overly long or ranty to say. However, that being said, I'll just get to some things.

Fabio: I didn't get as long to know you as the other two, but I liked the time we did get because of how to the point you were about things. A lot of answers have helped me understand more, but I'm also aware that with answers and questions there's potential for misinterpretation. So, my question to you is what do you think people misinterpret about you most, and why? Do you think it can be a positive?


RC and PG: I'm addressing you together on this because it's something I have to try and find some sense in. On the round that I went, from almost the entire time that the Immunity Challenge ended to where the Tribal Council results, both of you seemed to just avoid me like the plague. This was even something that Fabio and I joked about and were like "well, I guess they're voting one of us" over. I "get" that you could be thinking "oh no, we don't want him to campaign in case we change our minds", but...that kind of thing gives the impression of not being confident in your game and your decision. On top of that, as you'd be knowing that I'd be going on the Jury it doesn't seem logically like the smart thing to do in order to earn somebody's vote.

Like, if you've got a plan where you're confident in it and know you're not going to change your mind...then why not talk to me? Give me the respect and opportunity to make a pitch so that if/when you decide not to go with it, you can say something like "well, you had some good points, but it was just too big of a risk", and I can think "well, at least I got to have a chance to make a pitch". I'm not angry over the situation, I just don't think it was a rational or logical thing to do, so I'm curious on just what the reasoning was and what you expected me (or other people you might have done it with) to think or feel as a result of it.


Anyhow, good luck to all 3 of you.

[RC]

Hello Marty, your question is a very good one because it was something that I believe was a huge flaw in my game. When it came to being honest to people when they were the target, I was very hesitant to tell them. Not because I was terrified they would campaign against me, but just on the fact that if they campaigned to ME I would quickly change my mind. I was easily convinced, and when it came to people I liked in this game, telling them, than having them explain why they should stay even if it wouldn't benefit, I would vote with them. You and Todd were the 2 people that I just couldn't come out with it and tell. I knew that if Todd or you even said PLEASE once, I would have caved in. I am not this cold hearted ICE QUEEN people see me as. This is a game, but it is emotional for me as well. But back to your round, I was constantly telling Brandon and Peih-Gee that I felt so dirty and bad about not telling you. I even went to Peih-Gee a few times to see if there was any way we could just change the vote and get Fabio out. I didn't want to see you go. There were con's to keeping you that I knew...but thought maybe we could fight through them. If i kept you, than Sierra, Reynold, Todd, Brandon, PG, and Fabio (cause he would have stayed) would be against me. The only person that I thought would be happy you stayed was Andrea and after the Tyson & Andrea puzzle scandal I didn't know If I could even work with her.

But again, I know my mistakes, and know now that I could have just told you. But i didn't have THE BALLS (for a lack of a better term) to tell you. You deserved to know, Todd deserved that.

I could sit here and apologize to you for it, but it wouldn't change the fact that I didn't tell you. You are an awesome person, and you played this game in a unique way. I was lucky to have got to work with you for a few rounds.

Thanks again Marty.

[Fabio]

So, my question to you is what do you think people misinterpret about you most, and why? Do you think it can be a positive?

You're talking about misinterpretations in the FTC, right? Or in the game? I'll answer both...

In the game, I think my honesty was something that was misinterpreted a lot. For some reason, people saw me telling Tyson he was going home as a threat, because they thought he had an idol. Personally, I was 100% positive that no one had found that goddamn idol yet, so I think that showed how well I could evaluate situations. It also showed that I was not afraid to take risks -- I knew that Tyson could have blown up my game easily, but I still thought he deserved to know he was leaving. And in the end, he DID end up dragging my name through the mud, but I was able to recover and find my way here.

But back to the main point, I try to play this game as a honest player, and sometimes it blows up. Throughout the game, people decided they didn't know where my head was at, even though I straight up told the majority who I was voting every round. Now, I'm not entirely sure if this was positive for me in this game. In other games, being honest has really worked out in my favor. This time, it caused a lot of distrust that I really had to work to clean away.

But do I regret being honest and telling Tyson he was going? Not at all. It's who I am to be honest in these games, and I think you know that Mart. Whenever I talked with you and you were asking me if you should feel safe or nervous, I more or less told you without explicitly telling you. I told you that you basically needed immunity to survive during the F10 round, for example. And I'm glad that we had a more or less open dialogue throughout the game!

Throughout these answers, I think my fellow finalists in particular have been misinterpreting me (most likely intentionally). The most frequent misrepresentation has been them calling me unstrategic and passive, when I think I've shown that I was anything but. Likewise, they've been trying to portray me as a floater (e.g., when PG compared me to Woo). The floater comparison was actually the most egregious, because they spent so many rounds trying to (but were unable) to get me out...and not just because I was immune.

Now, is that a positive thing? During the game, it certainly was. RC was trying to get me out since the F10, and PG had been trying to get me out since the F8. But I was able to make moves that they apparently didn't detect in order to keep myself safe. If they knew what moves I was making, they surely wouldn't be calling me passive and strategic. So (and I know I've said this before), I think that's an overall testament to my social and strategic game.

Thanks Mart!

[Peih-Gee]

Hey Marty! <3

Okay, I figured you would ask me and RC a question like this, so I'm glad you're giving me the chance to explain it.

The reason why you were voted out that round, is because at that point in the game, the mentality was for the Wuyi seven to stick together. Like I explained to Malcolm, I never specifically wanted all seven of us in the final seven, I know that wasn't my path to the end and is why I took out Sierra. But at that point in time, it was too early to deviate from that plan. My time to make a move to get myself to the finals was at Final 7, not at Final 10. Unfortunately with the twist that round, you were put on a tribe with four Wuyi, there was really no way out. I actually have to disagree with what RC's saying, she's making it sound like she was open to booting Fabio yet I wanted to vote you, I don't think that was the case at all. The plan to boot you was a unanimous decision by Wuyi at the time, both those who were on our team and the other team.

Yes, I could've been more honest with you about what was going down and I understand if you hold that against me. Like I've alluded to throughout this Final Tribal Council, the Hidden Immunity Idol really had me paranoid. You can have all the alliances and numbers that you need, it just takes one idol and everything you've worked for could be ruined. As much as I'd have liked to give you the honor of knowing you're leaving, which you definitely deserved, my primary concern at that time was my own game. I knew you were a shrewd player, for all I knew, you could've found that Hidden Immunity Idol. If you knew you were leaving and I was voting against you, for all I knew, you could play the idol and suddenly my game is jeopardised. I know that sounds harsh, but I had to look out for myself first and foremost. Fabio likes to preach that he always gives people the honor of knowing they're leaving, cause I guess he feels his best sell to win this game is that he's such an honest player. Yet he thought everyone was voting for me at Final Five and still couldn't tell me to my face that he was voting me. I just want to point out that double standard as well and how he keeps rehashing that one example of telling Tyson he was leaving, cause it's convenient for him, yet it's not how he played the entire game.

At the end of the day, yes, I voted you out when you probably had the intention of going deeper in the game with me. If everyone on the jury is just going to vote for the person they're least hurt by, then I know I'm not going to win this Final Tribal Council. All I can do is explain my game, all my strategies, alliances, social abilities, challenge wins, idol finding, fire making, everything that I put into this game, and show that I deserve this win, because without any doubt, I had the most well rounded game of all the finalists and I worked every single angle to make it to this point. I never put myself in a position where I had to rely on one quality, I was able to bring whichever aspect I needed the most, when I needed it most, and in my mind, that's the sign of a great Survivor player and a great Survivor winner. I hope you can find it in your heart to forgive me, put personal feelings aside and vote for who you think truly played the best game.

Thanks for hearing me out.

[Fabio]

You keep on harping on the fact that I didn't tell you you were going, PG. The only reason I didn't was because I pretty much knew you weren't going home. I realized pretty quickly, based on the way RC was acting, that you had the idol and you were gonna play it on yourself. Besides that, I had told everyone else in the F5 that I was voting for PG...so I figured that at the very least RC had told you what I was doing.

So, yeah, I was dishonest with you. I don't think you have much room to talk in that regard, given you explicitly lied to me almost every single merge round. I only explicitly lied to three times -- when I said I had the idol during the round Brandon went home, when I told you that I didn't know that Brandon gave the idol away, and by not telling you you were going home. Those first two times were because if I told the truth, I would have had a worsened position in the game (the first lie explicitly saved my ass, as you've said before). The third lie was...to be quite honest, because I didn't really feel the need to tell you.


Marty, maybe I should add an addendum to my answer lol. I'm apparently being misinterpreted as an absolutely 100% honest player. I've acknowledged throughout this FTC that I was deceitful at certain points in this game. But I think a good player has this balance of being deceitful vs being honest that I've struck perfectly. I was honest when I knew it would either strengthen or at the very least not completely ruin my position. PG thinks I'm employing double standards because I didn't tell her I voted for her in a round where both she and I knew that she was going home. Which is funny, because she's blatantly grasping at straws.

[Peih-Gee]

My point is you're honest when it's convenient for you to bring it up here at FTC. Like, apparently I was worthy of your honesty to know I'd be getting your vote at final four, but three days earlier at final five, I apparently wasn't. :/ Seems a short time for such a big change.

[Fabio]

I think trying to frame this argument in terms of "worthiness" is silly, because there are a lot more factors than that, and I think you know that. If you want to know why I didn't tell you at F5, read the post you just responded to. I told you at F4 to give you a chance to plead your case. 

[Peih-Gee]

I just wanted to point out that your honesty policy isn't that consistent. I didn't necessarily play a completely honest game, but I at least own that. Plus, everyone knows you were never keeping me at final four, so I don't believe that you cared about letting me plead my case. But okay, we can agree to disagree.