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Post by Brandon on Apr 17, 2015 2:08:47 GMT
Congratulations to the Final Three, making it here is no easy task, and believe me, I respect that. Before I move onto my ranting and questions, I need to ask Todd what it was like to have his dick sucked that hard by RC. For PG Peih-Gee, I am impressed. Truly. I believe you played the best "Textbook Strategic Game", if you will. You found yourself in alliances left and right, and you were always a joy to talk to, and were easily one of my favorite people in this game. Now, my issue with you is that you lied a whole lot more than you needed to. While this is a game, and lying is fine, you lied unnecessarily. After the Tyson vote, you told me it was just a misunderstanding and that it was a completely last minute thing. Now, I know that wasn't true. Fabio had told me ahead of time that you guys were gonna take Tyson out, and then RC and Sierra both said I was intentionally left out of the loop. 1. Why did you feel the need to lie to me after the Tyson vote? 2 You and RC played similar games. What separates your game from hers?
For Roberta
Roberta, Roberta, Roberta. I believe it was in Round 1, possibly Round 2, that I had you pegged as a snake in my confessional. I feel like that's 50% accurate. Normally snakes aren't kept on leash, like the way PG ran you through this game, as you did her dirty work for her. We never really clicked in my eyes the same way I did with PG or Fabio, but I found myself working with you regardless after the swap, and it wasn't a bad thing. I thought we got along pretty well after we swapped. My issue stems from the fact you alienated me in the Tyson vote. Now, I will admit it wholeheartedly that I was an active hater of your game in the jury, and your opening statement has really soured me even further. At the beginning, you claim that I should put my personal feelings aside, and focus on your game. Okay. You cite that you worked to be in a controlling position after we swapped, without mentioning that I had a double vote or that PG connected with Sonja and took advantage of the Joe/Sonja feud? You fail to mention the fact you told me not to reveal ANY game stuff with Marty, and that I shouldn't even talk game with him because he's shady. You tried to strongarm your "ally" into not even talking to another player, while you were doing it yourself. My biggest issue comes when you cut me out of the vote. Now, I understand that there was the risk of an idol being played, but why did you feel the need to mention that you, PG, and I were this "strong threesome" multiple time? It's one thing to make an alliance with someone, and it's another to wholeheartedly convince me we'd go to the Finals together, and then backstab me. The only other thing I wanna rant about is how after I blew up, you called me a doucher in your opening statement, and then apparently were mad that I lied to you about the round I went home? Wait, so after you cut me out of a vote, throw my name out the next round (Which I knew about, and was the only reason I apologized), and then you have the audacity to get upset when Fabio and I lied to you? Now, you're on very, very thin ice in my book. You better nail this FTC and hope PG/Fabio really screw up, or you won't get my vote. 1. Explain what Outwit, Outplay, Outlast means to you. 2. Who do you think should have won Samoa and HvV?
For Fabio
You were easily my closest friend in this game, and I'm happy we got to play together. However, you don't instantly have my vote because of that. I'm gonna make you work for it. Your game wasn't nearly as flashy as PG's and had a lot more holes, because she set herself up to make it to the Final 4 without any real opposition, which is impressive.
1. Is it harder to play a (relatively) clean game and win, or to play a cutthroat, dishonest game and win? 2. Who had the hardest road to the Finals out of the three of you?
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Fabio
Runner-Up
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Post by Fabio on Apr 17, 2015 2:50:48 GMT
1. Is it harder to play a (relatively) clean game and win, or to play a cutthroat, dishonest game and win?
Definitely the former. It's SO difficult to play an honest game and not become a target because of it. I told Tyson about the vote, which instantly caused other's not to trust me as much when it came out that I told. Because of that, I had to basically dodge tribal after tribal (which I'll go into in your next question) in order to keep myself safe.
PG/RC, both played incredibly dishonest games. They were in alliances with literally EVERYONE once the merge hit, which is a great way to get to the end...but not a great way to win when all of your allies are on the jury and mad that you basically lied to their faces.
Now, I will say that the cutthroat game is respectable if you have good jury management...but based on the angry messages PG/RC got each time they voted someone out, I'm going to say they didn't.
Anyway, I've been typing up your answer to part 2, but kind of got on a tangent...lol. So I'll put it in a separate post once I finish with it. Love ya B.
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RC
3rd Place
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Post by RC on Apr 17, 2015 3:09:55 GMT
First of all I want to apologize for saying you were a doucher. That was uncalled for. I honestly didn't know too much about you starting off this game, except for the fact that you enjoyed to travel and you loved food. We didn't talk game until we were put onto a tribe together after swap. I really wanted to work with you and felt like we really did bond when we were swapped and on the outs. The thing that made me lose all my trust in you is we had a conversation about Marty before, and I told you that I felt Marty was always withholding information and always asking questions but never answering them. Chris (of all people) came to me before the vote and told me that you told him what I said, and that he agreed that Marty should go. When i went to you about this, you said it never happened. I knew it happened. I told you, "It's okay you can tell me." Hoping you would just be honest and say you told him. But you still denied it. That is the honest to God truth on why I stopped trusting you, and including you on plans. I knew that you didn't like me, it was obvious, even after you and i "patched" things up, it was 100% clear that you were over it, and disliked me. Plus you told people that you didn't like me and they just came back and told me. So back stab, i wouldn't say that, plus you had the idol to get Reynold out. So the fact that you were mad at Reynold and I, is beyond me. If anything i thought you would have been the first to applaud that move as a game player and not take it personal and say you hate us after you were eliminated. However, the round that you did go I wanted to vote out Fabio and not you. The only reason the vote was switched to you was because we thought that Fabio had the idol. And my strong arm approached was my attempt at "KEEP YOUR FRIENDS CLOSE, ENEMIES CLOSER".
1. I personally believe that outwit, outplay, outlast means you have to be one step ahead of everyone else.
2. I never seen Samoa so I can't answer that question, however I did see Heroes Vs Villains and my choice for a winner that season was Parvati, when it came to the final 3 I thought she was the most well rounded player, she won challenges, she played an aggressive game, and she was just so damn likeable.
Thanks Brandon.
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Fabio
Runner-Up
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Post by Fabio on Apr 17, 2015 3:18:47 GMT
2. Who had the hardest road to the Finals out of the three of you?
I did, no question. PG/RC got here by steamrolling their allies. Basically, once Tyson left, I had to dodge a bullet at each round because someone was targeting me. However, based on connections I made throughout the game, and me being able to portray myself overall as useful to someone in the game, I was able to sneak by. Let me break it down. This was the vote where we were divided into two groups of five. Marty targeted me because I wasn't on his swapped tribe, and RC tried to get me out because she didn't want to break her deal with Marty. PG sided with me over RC, and caused RC to break her deal and vote Marty out. In this round, PG/RC formulated a plan to get Brandon or I out. I was RC's intended target, but me saying I had the idol from the auction saved my skin and caused them to vote Brandon, even though I never had it in the first place. Lying about what reward I had was probably when I was the most deceitful in this game (which is tame compared to what my fellow finalists did ), but it ended up saving my skin. I managed to cinch my first immunity win this round, after realizing that I probably needed it. The last round had made it abundantly clear that I was on the outs, so I needed an IC win so I would have time to reintegrate with a majority, otherwise I'd be the easy target. And in the following round, after I was left out of the Sierra vote, I found my majority... Reynold and I were both blindsided with the Sierra vote, which was very poor play on RC/PG's part, and is another example of their flagrant disregard of loyalty towards their allies. Because Reynold came to me and said that he wanted to target PG for leaving him out of that vote. I had found new REAL allies in him and Todd. And this was a very good thing, because RC wanted to target me this round and let Andrea slide through another round. But thankfully, Reynold and Todd stuck with me in voting Andrea, causing RC/PG to acquiesce and take her out too. This vote, I KNEW I needed immunity. I knew that if PG had an idol, I would be her and RC's targets. So I went ham and won it, and everyone had to change their plans. In the end, Todd and I voted for PG, while Reynold/RC/PG stuck together and ousted Todd. Yet again, there was another vote where I was on the outs. But, I don't think I would've voted for Todd even if I was told. He was one of the people who I was the most real with in this game after Brandon left. I thought I could trust him, which is a real testament to his game because it's obvious that EVERYONE thought they could trust them. Unfortunately, my IC win caused his allies to send him out the door. I very obviously needed this IC win. RC/PG made it very clear that I was their intended target because they wanted Reynold to help them knock me out of the challenge. But, with Reynold's help, I won it! Causing them to change their plans again to unfortunately put their votes on Rey. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anyway, sorry I went on a bit of a tangent there. The point of it was to show that throughout this game I was the obvious target. I spent a majority of the merged games on the outs. But I managed to survive by either using my connections with players to save myself (like when PG didn't vote me out during the Marty vote), by winning immunity, or by offering myself as a vote to Reynold/Todd. RC/PG made deals with everyone in the game and never had to worry about being voted out until the end of the game. And I can say that, having been on both sides of the coin, it's a lot easier to break all of your alliances and deceive everyone to get ahead vs. having to secure your own safety round after round.
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Post by Peih-Gee on Apr 17, 2015 12:23:21 GMT
Hey Brandon! Thanks for all the compliments. <3 You were my first true ally in this game, and even though I did end up voting you out, I still enjoyed our conversations and getting to know you! I'm glad you feel the same. Yeah, I think I was in more alliances than anyone in the game, actually! I think with the exception of Malcolm, I was aligned with everyone who made the merge. Yep, Sonja too! She was my secret weapon and it sucked when she disappeared. </3 Anyway, the thing about my game is, with the exception of aligning with Todd, I don't think I was ever someone to pitch an alliance. I preferred to take the time to get to know everyone on a personal level, so they grow to trust me and want to work with me. That way it comes across as more genuine and people feel comfortable strategising with someone like that. That's how our alliance formed! I think I was a social butterfly and I'd spread my wings and let anyone fly with me if they wanted too. <3 I worked hard at my social relationships so that everyone would want me in their alliance! It's true I had a hand in voting out most of the jury, but that shows I was playing the game! I never was surprised with how a vote turned out or where someone stood, cause everyone trusted to tell me their plans and I could plan my path to the finals. I think overall I had the best read of the game of the final three, I knew what was up. Yeah, I lied, but so did all of us! Fabio says he played an honorable game but he didn't tell me he was voting me at Final 5. Idg why, cause he had immunity. But yeah. Honestly, I was okay for you to be filled in on the Tyson vote. I knew I could trust you at that point and you wouldn't do anything silly that would hurt my game or our alliance. Others didn't feel the same, cause of idol paranoia and all that. I just didn't wanna be that one who went and spilled the plan and suddenly my other allies lose trust in me when I wasn't supposed to tell. I didn't want you to know that the Tyson vote was planned in advance, cause that would make it seem like I was actively plotting to leave you out of it, which honestly wasn't the case. Yes, I was on board to vote off Tyson, but I wasn't on board to leave you out of it. I just felt like I was in between a rock and a hard place, between you and my allies who didn't trust to fill you in, so I had to lie to soften the blow and tell a little lie and do my best to make both you/them still come out of it wanting to work with me. It seems you caught onto me though, good job! I guess this is the point in the game where our alliance kind of fell apart and we stopped trusting each other, which sucks, but like I said, I was juggling alliances with everyone at this point, and I had to go with the group that I stuck with to get to the end. Hum. I think my game is different from RC's in a lot of ways. First of all, I think I worked harder to set myself up in a better position Wuyi. I had that alliance with you/Fabio/Corinne and then I was also with RC/Reynold/Sierra. I was Peih-Gee in the middle! So I really could've gone either way. To be perfectly honest, I was more with you/Fabio/Corinne in the first two rounds! I felt like Reynold/Sierra were tight and I maybe had more options with our group. I know that changed over time, but that was my thought process at the beginning. Also, the move I made to vote Sierra out I think genuinely did get me to the end. Even though I was in the controlling alliance, I knew that Reynold at least was looking at me as a player he wouldn't wanna go to the end with, cause I was very much apart of the strategic decisions, yet didn't get as much blood on her hand as him and RC. After I took Sierra out, I knew the focus would still be on Andrea/Fabio, so I guaranteed myself final four and a shot at the tiebreak challenge. RC and Todd were also apart of that move, but I think RC was going to the end regardless by that point. I think RC was maybe more aggressive than me, more confrontational. I'm not necessarily saying that's a good or bad thing, but she was definitely more vocal, that's for sure! I think I was better at biting my tongue and thinking of the right thing to say. I think of the three finalists, I'm kind of the perfect balance. I think RC was maybe too aggressive and ruthless, Fabio was too passive and lacked strategy! I found the right balance of each to map my path to the end. Social, strategic, physical, I had it all and I think that's what determines a great Survivor winner. Anyway, thanks for giving me the chance to explain all this. To be honest, I thought there was a good chance you'd just be a locked vote for Fabio. Don't get me wrong, I love Fabio too! If I didn't, he wouldn't have lasted as long as he did. But I'm glad you're open to voting who you think truly played the best game of the three of us and not just who you were closer friends with, so I respect that. Thank you.
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Post by Brandon on Apr 17, 2015 17:51:12 GMT
Thank you all for your answers, I'm honestly impressed.
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